Helen Keller, satanist?

Helen Keller (1880-1968) was the creator of the deaf signing system. The brilliant Keller was a pitiful character in some ways.

Stricken blind and deaf at an early age, she nevertheless went on to considerable achievements in life. But Helen Keller also got involved in occultic sects like Swedenborgianism and Theosophy. Did her membership in these groups inspire Keller to choose a hand sign for the deaf, translated as ‘I love you’, which is today often used interchangeably with the universal ‘I love (and/or worship) Satan’ hand sign?

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by Anonymousreply 26April 16, 2020 5:36 PM

OH FFS - you're off your meds again. Are you the same person who posted that the victims of Charlie Manson were into satanism?

She did NOT create sign language. That was easy enough to Google.

by Anonymousreply 2April 16, 2020 1:48 AM

I burst out laughing at that part, R2. That and the “I love you, Devil” reference. 😂

by Anonymousreply 4April 16, 2020 1:51 AM

Who knows how many innocent babies she might have sacrificed to Satan, had she only been able to see to find them!

by Anonymousreply 5April 16, 2020 1:53 AM

Wait, my family was Swedenborgian for a time when I was young, and I definitely don’t remember any occult stuff. That would have been more interesting than the typical church type stuff we actually did.

by Anonymousreply 7April 16, 2020 1:59 AM

The New Church or Swedenborgians are explicitly Christian. It isn't orthodox Christianity but it is NOT satanist. I have seen nothing to connect Keller and Theosophy. But, Theosophy is not satanist, either.

The site linked by OP is nothing but a conspiracy theory website for extremist fundamentalist Christians, it is the internet equivalent of those stupid Chick Tracts, you used to find in restrooms.

by Anonymousreply 9April 16, 2020 2:28 AM

Keller was a huge fan of the USSR so I guess she's kind of satanish. Well, not really, because a ton of people in other countries admired Stalin and the "communist" experiment in Russia until they found out what kind of shit was happening in there.

by Anonymousreply 10April 16, 2020 2:36 AM

R10 Keller was a committed Socialist, so of course she would like the USSR, at least at first.

by Anonymousreply 11April 16, 2020 2:40 AM

Also, R10, the USSR was Atheistic not Satanist.

by Anonymousreply 12April 16, 2020 2:41 AM

R11/R12, it was a joke. And my conclusion WAS "not really [a Satanist]" :-)

by Anonymousreply 13April 16, 2020 2:46 AM

She did not invent sign language. I knew a family growing up who was Swedenborgian and they were the furthest thing from the occult there was. Last but not least, Satanists are certainly more peaceful and fair, than most christians.

by Anonymousreply 14April 16, 2020 3:53 AM

The name is an anagram.

But I can't use Scrabble letters to figure out what that anagram might be!

by Anonymousreply 15April 16, 2020 4:35 AM

For the Swedenborgians, what is the deal with not grafting fruit trees?

by Anonymousreply 16April 16, 2020 5:52 AM

It's very right wing to call things you don't know Satanic. Theosophy is not Satanic, though some may argue its occult bend is Luciferian, as many other orders with a high influence of Jewish and Christian Gnosticism emphasize the myth of Lucifer as the bringer of light and knowledge.

Even if you go deep down the rabbit hole, most denominations right wingers call Satanic have nothing to do with either Laveyan satanism of the 60s or demonic orders of the middle ages inspired by Goetia and other occult practices that actually revered the Devil and its many forms.

by Anonymousreply 17April 16, 2020 6:57 AM

[quote] Satanists are certainly more peaceful and fair, than most christians

Wouldn't say that. Satanism in its many forms, and I'm talking about the mainstream ones, not the real occult ones where people are still sacrificing people and sometimes being arrested by the FBI for it, it tends to attract a very selfish crowd with its emphasis on individuality, its a very selfish and navel gazing philosophy. I'd say Satanism is the religious manifestation of an Ayn Rand cult.

by Anonymousreply 18April 16, 2020 7:01 AM

She plagiarized her book too.

by Anonymousreply 19April 16, 2020 7:28 AM

The "I love you" sign is based on ASL's combined fingerspelling positions for i, l, and u, OP.

by Anonymousreply 21April 16, 2020 10:00 AM

Next, we'll be inundated by 'Q' dipshits.

by Anonymousreply 22April 16, 2020 10:43 AM

r21 If you look at that hand sign without a discerning eye, it resembles the University of Texas at Austin "Hook 'em!" horns.

by Anonymousreply 23April 16, 2020 12:19 PM

None of that changes the fact she stole the book and passed it off as her own.

by Anonymousreply 24April 16, 2020 5:25 PM

Because hand gestures and other symbols always have the exact same meaning through time and in all cultures.

by Anonymousreply 25April 16, 2020 5:32 PM

I don't understand the lack of enthusiasm for this meme. It went over big on 4chan.

by Anonymousreply 26April 16, 2020 5:36 PM

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